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Exciting dual antenna with two different frequencies simultaneously

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I am attempting to simulate the structure using COMSOL. Specifically, I am trying to excite a two-antenna array, each with four point sources, simultaneously at two different frequencies. However, I am having difficulty figuring out how to achieve this in COMSOL, as the tool is relatively new to me. I also tried combining the results of frequencies F1 and F2 in post-processing, but the outcomes seem incorrect.

Could you kindly guide me on how to approach this in COMSOL?

P.S: I mean antenna 1 with F1, and antenna 2 with F2 simultaneously.



4 Replies Last Post 2025年2月19日 GMT+8 22:34
Robert Koslover Antennas, Waveguides, Electromagnetics

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Posted: 2 years ago 2024年12月4日 GMT+8 08:29
Updated: 2 years ago 2024年12月4日 GMT+8 08:36

If your physics is entirely linear (and Isuspectit is), then you can combine the two separately computed results just as you described, working in the frequency domain. If there are any non-linear effects of significance, then you need to do this in time domain. (Note: I amassumingyou are presently attempting to do this in the frequency domain.) Now, assuming linearity holds, if the outcomes in your model "seem incorrect" to you, then: (1) there may be one or more errors somewhere in the setup of the problem, involving one or both of the two frequencies, and/or in how you endeavored to combine the results, either in post-processing or elsewhere; or (2) another possibility is that the result that concerns you may actually be correct, but is also different from what you expected. To get this resolved, I suggest you post your .mph file to the forum so that other Comsol users reading this can take a look at it and offer you suggestions specific to your model and physics.

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If your physics is entirely linear (and I *suspect* it is), then you can combine the two separately computed results just as you described, working in the frequency domain. If there are any non-linear effects of significance, then you need to do this in time domain. (Note: I am *assuming* you are presently attempting to do this in the frequency domain.) Now, assuming linearity holds, if the outcomes in your model "seem incorrect" to you, then: (1) there may be one or more errors somewhere in the setup of the problem, involving one or both of the two frequencies, and/or in how you endeavored to combine the results, either in post-processing or elsewhere; or (2) another possibility is that the result that concerns you may actually be correct, but is also different from what you expected. To get this resolved, I suggest you post your .mph file to the forum so that other Comsol users reading this can take a look at it and offer you suggestions specific to your model and physics.

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Posted: 2 years ago 2025年1月17日 GMT+8 05:16

Thank you so much for your support.

Thank you so much for your support.

Acculution ApS Certified Consultant

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Posted: 2 years ago 2025年1月17日 GMT+8 15:08

First, you need to make sure that you actually get the mathematics of what you want to do. In the attached picture it is seemingly a 'superposition of phasors that have two slightly different frequencies', and so that suggests a sum, in which case you can do what Robert says, and run each frequency on its own and then combine studies to get the full solution. But the attached picture also mentions E_AM, suggesting Amplitude Modulation, which in turn would imply a multiplication, in which case you need a time domain solution.

Try setting up two analytical solutions in COMSOL (no FEM), and compare sin(100[Hz]t)+sin(101[Hz]t) and sin(100[Hz]t)sin(1[Hz]*t)

and look at the frequency content of each of them. I sounds like you want to do the former of the two, but make sure.

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First, you need to make sure that you actually get the mathematics of what you want to do. In the attached picture it is seemingly a 'superposition of phasors that have two slightly different frequencies', and so that suggests a sum, in which case you can do what Robert says, and run each frequency on its own and then combine studies to get the full solution. But the attached picture also mentions E_AM, suggesting Amplitude Modulation, which in turn would imply a multiplication, in which case you need a time domain solution. Try setting up two analytical solutions in COMSOL (no FEM), and compare sin(100[Hz]*t)+sin(101[Hz]*t) and sin(100[Hz]*t)*sin(1[Hz]*t) and look at the frequency content of each of them. I sounds like you want to do the former of the two, but make sure.

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Posted: 2 years ago 2025年2月19日 GMT+8 22:34

Thank you so much @René Christensen, PhD.

Thank you so much @René Christensen, PhD.

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